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Listen to the Children

Reverend Brian J. Kiely, Unitarian Church of Edmonton, March 11, 2001

On the eve of a provincial election, Alberta is faced with an interesting problem. By all accounts this is one of the wealthiest provinces in Canada. We pay the lowest taxes in the land, have long boasted a balanced budget and have the lowest provincial debt ratio. Financially we are in great shape with good per capita income numbers and good prospects for the future.

So why are there so many poor among us? Why are our social assistance rates among the lowest in the country? Why has the provision of public housing for our homeless been dumped largely onto the not-for-profit sector? Why is the government Albertans are about to re-elect ignoring the needs of those citizens most desperately in need of support?

The answer seems to lie in a cultural retreat to the bad old days, back to when the Protestant Work Ethic dictated that being poor was your own darn fault. Starting from the days when Ralph Klein was buying bus tickets to send the bumsto Vancouver, the government has consistently adopted a policy position designed to blame the poor for their own plight. Oh the words the government offers speak of supporting the needs of all Albertans, but this government has consistently refused to back those words up with policy shifts, or more importantly, dollars for programs.

Nope, in Alberta poor folks are poor folks because they are stupid, lazy, addicted (through weakness of character, not illness) and just plain not responsible. They're poor because they deserve to be poor?

Blood pressure rising yet? Mine is. I came here four years ago and fell in love with this church and this city, but there are days when I am ashamed to think of myself as an Albertan.

Six years ago a group of prominent volunteers came together because they, too were appalled by the callousness of their government. Some were ministers, some were social workers, some were activists, some were business people. They formed the Quality of Life Commission. "The Quality of Life Commission seeks to be a well-researched, effective voice on behalf of Edmontonians who are living in poverty." reads their literature.

Among the founders was Lois Hole, member of this congregation and now the Lt. Governor of the province. Earlier this year I was privileged to accept an invitation to join the Commission. I'm not exactly taking Lois's place, but I am filling a vacancy created when her new office forced her to leave the Commission.

A few years ago, the Commission delivered it's first major project, a report entitled "Listen to Me". People in poverty were interviewed by a professional researcher, and given voice in a new and unique way. "Listen to Me" was a precursor to Mel Hurtig's impactful book "Pay the Rent or Feed the Kids" which expanded the approach to the national scale.

For its next project, the Commission decided to look at that part of the population that had no say in their impoverished state. They wanted to refute the idea of æthe undeserving poor by surveying a part of society that has no say. They went to the poor children of Edmonton. They hired Dr. Jane Hewes to conduct a series of small group interviews with children aged 10 and 11 from several of Edmonton's low-income neighborhoods, including this one. In December the 57 page report "Listen to the Children" was released.

Once again it gave the children the chance to define the problems of poverty from the inside. To our surprise, their understanding of their situation was very different from what we, a group of largely white, middle aged and middle class professionals expected. From our vantage point we look at poverty as being an inability to pay the bills. We challenge the government on the creation of a two tier health care system that we fear will give second quality medicine to the marginalized. We focus on the proliferation of food banks, and the rising cost of energy. But all of these are adult issues, adult concerns. The children see poverty very differently. They are less aware of health issues, and expressed few concerns about having enough to eat. Let me share a few of the major findings of the report:


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" The most compelling finding of this piece of research is the impact of poverty and low-income neighborhoods on children's feelings of safety and security... Experiences with guns and knives, domestic violence, police, theft, fire, drug and alcohol use were described routinely by children in
all of the interviews. Safety is a big issue for these children. Many of them describe not feeling safe in their neighbourhoods and in some cases, in their homes and bedrooms. In one child's words, "If I could change my neighbourhood, I would just move away...cause it's not safe here." (p. 22)


One child speaking for a friend who could not tell her own story said, "Some guy almost took her away in his car, and another girl helped her get out and took down the license plate and he had to go to jail." (p. 23)

Another said, Three months ago, one night probably 10 p.m. we looked outside, we could see all these red lights going on, and then we saw ten ambulances and two fire trucks and police cars blocking our back alley. We're like, Oh no. Somebody's lose and..then I got really scared, cause like almost every three months something happens on our block...They were trying to find the guy. I think he escaped from jail and came on our block...cause it said on the news.ö (p. 28)

Chilling stories from 10 year olds. I can't imagine growing up in an environment like that, one of coloured by fear of gangs, of pedophiles, of violent parents, of drug and alcohol abuse. How in the name of all that is good can we possibly blame these children when they grow up and some of them repeat these patterns? It is the only life they have ever known. It is the only way they know to be in the world They may hate it and may fear it, but it is what they know as normal. We all learn our first lessons about how the world works from our parents and our childhood environments. We all live out patterns we learn in those early years be they healthy or harmful. Why should these children be any different?

One obvious response from our compassionate have side of the populace would be to provide the children with different ways of understanding the world. We want our teachers to show them a different way to succeed, but school is only part of the day. There is a lot of learning that goes on outside the classroom. The children showed that when their comments led another major finding:

"The second striking theme in this data is around children's limited participation in organized recreation and cultural activities... In this sample of children, participation in organized recreational activities is minimal. None of these children described having had experiences of playing on organized community sport teams. None of them described having taken music or drama or dance lessons...Even swimming lessons were rare..." (p.29-30)

As someone who did participate broadly in such activities growing up, I know that these kinds of programs helped me more about how society works. They taught me how to play, what discipline was, what good manners were...heck, even what it meant just to show up on time. More fun and less structured than school, the children learn values from adults who are not their parents at a time when they are starting to look beyond their own families.

Having talked about this in the past, I know most of you can name a coach or a teacher of art or music who had a powerful influence on your development, who helped you learn how to move about successfully in the world and who respected you for the person you were becoming. To be sure there are people who abuse such positions of trust and there are some horror stories out there, but for the most part, contact with these mentoring adults helps us discover our abilities and our confidence.

The Commission's interviews show us that poor children do not get to these mentors. Why? In some cases the cost of lessons or memberships is beyond the familiy's means. In other cases, the parent or parents never had access to such activities and so don't value them. And finally, some children can't get such programs because they don't happen nearby or because they aren't easy to access. About the time the report was released I came across a pamphlet from City Hall about low cost swim programs for these children. To get information or to register, you have to reach City Hall in person, through a complicated phone system or through web site access. Sounds easy, but if you are not used to working in the system or distrustful of it, that's harder than it sounds.

We need to find ways to bring these programs to the children so that they are free, take place in their neighborhood and easy to get at.

The study was initially framed around the question of hunger, but the children answered differently from expected. Dr. Hewes suggested, "hunger may be a very personal issue for children, one which reflects badly on their families and which they are unwilling to discuss.." She also suggested that pursuant to the findings of "Listen to Me" parents will tend to deprive themselves of food before the children go hungry.

There are hungry children in Edmonton, but their hunger tends to be sporadic and occasional. As one child said, "Sometimes we don't have enough food in our house, so we have like sandwiches or something for supper and maybe nothing for breakfast sometimes...It's not bad, but when I'm hungry ... sometimes my dad can take us to the store, but not all the time, cause he doesn't have lots of food. But if he hasn't, I just like grab a slice of bread and go outside." (p.33)

But again, the lack of food came home to the children not so much as hunger, but more often as one of security. A child coming to school with no lunch is marked out as different and often ridiculed. "There was one kid, his family didn't have lots of money...and it was pretty bad for him because everyone would make fun of him. They called him names because .. like it's not his fault...it was really hard for him. It isn't his fault. It isn't anybody's fault." (p. 32)

For children, the issue of poverty hits home because it makes them unsafe. They feel physically unsafe from harm in their homes and neighborhoods, and they feel subject to ridicule and abuse at school and play. Not the soundest platform on which to build a productive adult life.

Our report offered several recommendations concerning safety and recreation, but I won't rehearse them here. They are printed at the end of this sermon. Instead, I'll let the children tell you how they would make things better. As is often the case, they said it more simply and more purely than we did.

"I wish every second block there was a police so there were more people to protect us," said one.

"I would have a lot more block parents - like who could walk around and check for people outside and that," said another.

"I wish I could get quality time with my family but I can't because my parents are on late shifts and we don't have enough money to like get a new car."

"No drinking, smokes or drugs..."

And finally,

" I want to be Mayor... I'd make less taxes ... it costs too damn much ... and I'd make everything fair ... like if there's people on the streets, I'd put them in homes .. and make sure everybody had food."
We couldn't say it any better.


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